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Old 09-27-2008, 05:36 PM   #5831
Arles
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Originally Posted by astrosfan64 View Post
I still can't stand either VP. I really dislike Palin.

I thought Obama and McCain did really well. I actually feel pretty good about either choice right now. I don't think I ever felt that way. I agreed with both of them on some issues.

I think for the first time in a while, either choice might not be so bad.
I'm beginning to enter this camp as well. I think Obama is much more pragmatic than people (esp on the right) give him credit for. He's pretty much thrown out the left of his party on delaying the tax increase, extending the time in Iraq, going pro-clean coal and nuclear and even considering drilling. His health care plan will never pass the house and a lot of his education reforms will get watered down.

I see a lot of Bill Clinton in him and think that he would be OK. I would prefer McCain/Palin, but I can't really think of one substantive area where the country will be much different if the other was in power. I think McCain will handle some of the Iran/North Korea/Russia things a little better and that Obama will be more focused on economic issues. I don't think either will change a thing in Iraq (we'll leave in 2-3 years under both) and both will do a solid job on Afghanistan.

I wasn't real thrilled with Gore or Kerry for many reasons, but I think it's different with Obama. I started out not liking a lot of his policies, but the more time passes, the more he's kind of inching over to my perspective on some issues. So, I'm a little with Grant Dawg and Astro in that I think we will be fine either way.

Now, I will still take the conservative (esp fiscal) stance in this thread and be pro-McCain - don't get me wrong. But I have no dread or fear of the opposing candidate winning.
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