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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

It is what it is. What do you expect me to do, go into denial mode or something? Not my bag, sorry.

The downfall of nations is something that occurs throughout history, even I'm not arrogant enough to believe the US is somehow entirely immune to that. I'm not going to lie, I hoped I wouldn't live to see it but I'm also not going to ignore the possibility either. And in this case, not only the possibility but what I'm convinced is the virtual certainty of it.

Nothing short of a miracle will prevent an Obama victory next week, and nothing short of a miracle will find the US a legitimate world power after four years of that. He's a clueless empty suit who has shown me virtually no hint of having the common sense or discernment needed to survive on the world stage. He's the embodiment of everything every enemy we've ever had has dreamed of, duly anointed by a coalition of proverbial useful idiots. It's the utter disaster of the Carter administration with exponentially greater prospect for disaster since there seems to be little reason for hope for a recovery afterwards.

Because frankly if we've sunk to the depths to elect this sack of shit we don't really belong at the top of the global food chain anyway, we've collectively devolved so far that we aren't capable of handling the position. That's ultimately the real problem and why I don't see much reason for hope at this point. I mean, McCain was the chosen alternative for crying out loud, and that's not exactly an stellar alternative. Infinitely preferable in this case, but still a tragic indictment of our condition. Obama is just the most glaring sign of how low we've sunk, not the only indication by a long stretch.

As for toughness, that will come into play with regard to individual survival in the years to come. But no amount of "toughness" could have saved The Titanic from going under, the damage was fatal. All that was realistically possible was to hope to be among the few survivors.

Miracles do happen still -- whether next Tuesday or in a relatively short time after -- so technically speaking things are not entirely hopeless. But when you're down to miracles being your only hope, the odds aren't exactly looking good. That's not a lack of toughness, that's being realistic about the situation.

It seems you now have a sense of the feeling some people felt after W was elected.