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Old 10-30-2008, 10:06 AM   #9013
sterlingice
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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA View Post
The downfall of nations is something that occurs throughout history, even I'm not arrogant enough to believe the US is somehow entirely immune to that. I'm not going to lie, I hoped I wouldn't live to see it but I'm also not going to ignore the possibility either. And in this case, not only the possibility but what I'm convinced is the virtual certainty of it.

Nothing short of a miracle will prevent an Obama victory next week, and nothing short of a miracle will find the US a legitimate world power after four years of that. He's a clueless empty suit who has shown me virtually no hint of having the common sense or discernment needed to survive on the world stage. He's the embodiment of everything every enemy we've ever had has dreamed of, duly anointed by a coalition of proverbial useful idiots. It's the utter disaster of the Carter administration with exponentially greater prospect for disaster since there seems to be little reason for hope for a recovery afterwards.

Because frankly if we've sunk to the depths to elect this sack of shit we don't really belong at the top of the global food chain anyway, we've collectively devolved so far that we aren't capable of handling the position. That's ultimately the real problem and why I don't see much reason for hope at this point. I mean, McCain was the chosen alternative for crying out loud, and that's not exactly an stellar alternative. Infinitely preferable in this case, but still a tragic indictment of our condition. Obama is just the most glaring sign of how low we've sunk, not the only indication by a long stretch.

I'm just not sure how Obama is the disaster that is basically Nero fiddling while Rome burns. It's not as if he created the mess, it's just that he or McCain will be the individual thrust into it. The groundwork for this has been laid at many various points from as far back as when China or India were drawn up on a map and formed as countries to our horrible explosion of government debt in the 80s and 00s to a lot of the horribly failed plans of the last 8 years.

The argument can be made that neither of these men is up for the challenge. However, it could also be made that no one could effectively get out of this situation because it was a disaster with no chance of victory. No matter how good your plans are, you can't win at Thermopylae or the Alamo. Do you see anyone out there who can fix all of these problems or at least put a dent in them? Or is it just that we're doomed, it's just a matter of how quickly?

I just don't see how the next President, be it Obama or McCain, can be seen as the end of the world. Either he's in a no-win situation and will grease the road to hell so we speed down that way faster or he'll actually manage to slow or even reverse some of the bad course we're on. But it's not as if we're at a pinnacle or a high plateau right now where things are great and he's going to ruin that. One could argue that about our current President, especially with hindsight favoring us, but I don't see how you can do that about the next one.

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