[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

This is a good summary of what's actually in the Presidential order. From Hilzoy:

You're right. It's an excellent summary. It notes the following:

"1. No State Party shall expel, return ("refouler") or extradite a person to another State where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture.

2. For the purpose of determining whether there are such grounds, the competent authorities shall take into account all relevant considerations including, where applicable, the existence in the State concerned of a consistent pattern of gross, flagrant or mass violations of human rights."

All of that is VERY subjective and assumes that the U.S. government has full disclosure of what occurs overseas in other countries. Even in cases where they do have a high level of disclosure, there still is no guarantee of a decrease of torture. The increase in exportation of these suspects takes the direct monitoring of independent groups that is done at Gitmo to places where direct monitoring likely will not be allowed.

"to study and evaluate the practices of transferring individuals to other nations in order to ensure that such practices comply with the domestic laws, international obligations, and policies of the United States and do not result in the transfer of individuals to other nations to face torture or otherwise for the purpose, or with the effect, of undermining or circumventing the commitments or obligations of the United States to ensure the humane treatment of individuals in its custody or control."

In regards to any studies done by the government, count me as unimpressed. There's a laundry list of studies that were done by the government on various issues where they 'thoroughly' talked through an issue and totally failed to address the real problem. A glaring example is the sub-prime mortgage mess we're currently in.