KSU was not expected to beat anybody last season with the losses of Bill Walker and Michael Beasley. KSU was actually rated eighth in the conference last season while MU was seventh. The fact KSU finished 9-7 without their two NBA draft picks from the season before should impress anyone. You may not like Frank Martin, but he has gotten his guys to play tough hard nosed basketball these last two years. I would expect KSU to again be in the top half of the Big 12 this year based on talent and coaching.
Quin Snyder could land quality talent. Quin's problem was that he couldn't coach that talent. Letting guys chuck threes all game long with zero semblance of a real offense will destroy any team. You can dismiss Snyder's coaching talent, but the guy could recruit. He recruited Leo Lyons, Ricky Paulding, Kareem Rush, Arhtur Johnson, and Linas Kleiza. Some of those guys are still making money in the NBA.
Drew's problem at Baylor was that like Quin, he lost control of his team last season. They had all the talent in the world, but they didn't play together at all until their backs were to the wall. Drew is a great recruiter, but he needs a good bench coach to help him with the x's and o's similar to what Missouri tried to do with Quin later in his career. In all fairness, I've heard good things about Quin Snyder coaching in the NBDL. I do think he's going to eventually be a good coach in college or the NBA, but he just wasn't ready for a head coaching gig when Missouri hired him.
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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan
KSU and BU were supposed to do that LAST season. We all know how that turned out. As long as Martin and Drew are coaching those teams, they will continue to underachieve despite landing perceived good talent.
If Quin Snyder and Mike Anderson's stints have taught me anything, it's that the ability for sites like Rivals and Scout to accurately assess all talent in the nation is becoming increasingly difficult. People who work at those sites will openly admit that if you ask them. They rely more and more on second and third-hand reports because staffing is cut to keep expenses in check. Quin Snyder brought in highly-ranked talent according to the recruiting sites and couldn't do squat with it. Concensus amongst Mizzou fans is that Quin, along with Drew at Baylor, put far too much emphasis on rankings and just aren't that good at evaluating talent. It's fine to use it as a benchmark, but you can't rely on it.
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