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Old 10-20-2011, 09:15 AM   #416
Honolulu_Blue
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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger View Post
After the herd left, it kind of devolved back into the same old "let's make them do stupid stuff to further the story" stuff that got tiring last year.

I have heard this complaint by a number of folks, about how stupid/brain dead these folks are. Thinking back to this last episode, I can't really think of anything that they did that was so insanely stupid or brain dead.

The events, as I recall, where:

1. Car breaks down in the midst of the traffic jam. So, they stop there, start looting the cars for food, clothes, spare parts, weapons, etc. They also stop to fix the RV.

2. Zombie herd comes and they all hide.

3. Little girl gets spooked by two zombies and she takes off in the woods, trying to run away from them. She's a little girl. She's scared. I can't blame her for this.

4. Rick follows after her, finds her and tells her to hide so he can take care of the zombies alone without having to fear for her safety. Sound move.

5. Little scared girl takes off and tries to run back to her mother once the coast is clear and gets lost in the woods.

6. Rick and Daryl try to find the girl. They can't. It gets dark. They wait until day light to go out in a big search party.

7. Search party can't find her, they follow the bells to the church thinking the girl might have gone there. They kill the zombies in the church. It's getting late again, most of the group starts to head back while Rick, Shane and Carl stick around to look around the church to make sure the girl isn't hiding somewhere.

I'm failing to see how any of those actions, outside of those of the terrified little girl who is the daughter of a terribly abusive father and probably quite jumpy, are all that stupid or brain dead. All seem pretty much ok to me. I guess one thing people note is having Carl stay behind with Rick and Shane, but I don't even think that was all that dumb. He's with the second and third most compotent people (Daryl is clearly el numero uno in that regard). He would have probably been safer going back with the big group, but this is sort of their "new normal." He's got to start growing up a bit and the situation seemed pretty decent. It would have been fine save a completely random happenstance that could have easily happened anywhere.

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Originally Posted by thesloppy View Post
Lori is such a bring down, and she manages to suck the tension out of every scene she's in.

"This is a graveyard, we shouldn't defile this place"
"I don't like the way you're looking at me, just take the gun."
"I don't like the way you look at my husband."
"I don't like how you talk to my son."
"I know you still want me, but I don't want you"

Bitch, it's zombie apocalypse, not high school, get on board! Was she this insufferable in the comic? If she seemed even slightly concerned with the zombies rather than entirely her own personal bullshit, some of that concern might even carry over to the viewer.

Lori is a downer. Without a doubt. She is written a bit differently in the show than the comic. That said, I don't think it's terribly unrealistic that people continue to care about personal stuff in this situation. Sure, you're not going to be worried about when zombies are around, but during the many many hours of long no-zombie presence, that shit will, sadly, bubble up onto the surface, especially in such a tense situation.

Also, I think a lot of her issues come from the guilt of sleeping with Shane and betraying Rick. It's why she lashed out at Carol for the way she was "looking" at Rick. It's why she lashes out at Shane. I think she lashed out at Andrea, because, well, it would be hard not to after all of Andrea's complaining about the gun situation.

A person can really only be on "high alert I am thinking nothing other than zombies and how to survive" for so long. The adrenaline dissapates and old nonsense boils up, especially in a small, intimate group.

As for her complaining about looting from the dead, I really didn't have a problem with it. I would have had an issue if she complained and they didn't do it, but I have no problem with her voicing the concern and how bad it feels. It's a realisitic reaction to the situation. This isn't The Humungus and his hounds of war who have been living in the wasteland for years, scavanging off the carcas of a dead world. These are just regular people who have only been in this situation for a few months, tops. They aren't that hardened yet.
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