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Originally Posted by PilotMan
I bet that batters on drugs have more of an impact day to to day than the occasional pitcher on drugs in baseball. I can tell you that neither Greg Maddux nor Orel Hershiser ever used performance enhancing drugs, but that even if they did, the net gain by their teams would be less than if Mark McGwire gains.
I am well aware of the the trends in baseball. But the only real change away from the hitter friendly times of the late 80's through the early 2000's has been the start of serious drug testing. Parks are not bigger, pitchers are not suddenly that much better, mounds are not higher, strike zones are not larger. Small ball has a much bigger impact, and we no longer have guys with 35 HR's at the all star break.
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Lets go through the conjectures here:
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"I bet that batters on drugs have more of an impact day to to day than the occasional pitcher on drugs in baseball. I can tell you that neither Greg Maddux nor Orel Hershiser ever used performance enhancing drugs, but that even if they did, the net gain by their teams would be less than if Mark McGwire gains.
Based on what? Your gut? Are you a medical expert? Is there proof, of this or are just shooting from the hip here? As for Orel or Greg Maddux, baseball has a long history of banned supplements finding a place in the game; for the longest time, it was greenies, and so forth. This "back in my day" thing IMO is always selective vision.
am well aware of the the trends in baseball. But the only real change away from the hitter friendly times of the late 80's through the early 2000's has been the start of serious drug testing. Parks are not bigger, pitchers are not suddenly that much better, mounds are not higher, strike zones are not larger.
Are you kidding? Here are some of the parks that opened in the 90's to today - AT&T, PETCO, the Marlins stadium, the new Mets stadium - are you suggesting that these parks are hitter friendly?
I'm just picking on you here because this kind of stuff is just nothing but simple conjecture, that then gets turned into fact. There's absolutely no proof that hitters benefited more than pitchers other than "I say so."