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Old 07-14-2013, 11:41 PM   #815
molson
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Originally Posted by bhlloy View Post
Right, that's exactly what I said. For somebody who is supposed to be smart you sure as hell like to play obtuse when it suits your side of the argument.

There was clear intent on Zimmerman's part from the conversation with the dispatcher to intercept Martin, even when discouraged. We could easily pass laws to discourage that kind of vigilantism. I just think it's insanity to have people with zero training running around trying to play the cop, especially when firearms are involved.

I generally agree with the decision in the case based on the laws that are on the books. But the whole thing was just completely fucking unnecessary and it started with Zimmerman deciding he was Batman and he was going to chase a kid down based on a stupid hunch.

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Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post

Yeah, I was more talking about his comical spin on it. Pretending that people want others thrown in jail for following others. Would be like saying people who want DUI offenders thrown īn jail as people who "just want to throw people in jail for driving their car".


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Originally Posted by bhlloy View Post

"I don't think that sounds like a ridiculous law to say an armed citizen with no law enforcement training can't follow and stop somebody they deem to be acting suspiciously. We have large police forces for a reason."


That's what I'm responding to, perhaps I misread it. But it sounds like you want to make it a crime to follow and stop people someone deems to be acting suspiciously, if they're armed, and if they have no law enforcement training. The "stop" part I can maybe see an issue with, but there's no evidence that that happened in this case. There's also no evidence that Zimmerman even continued following Martin after he was advised not to. That's just one speculative narrative.

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