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Old 10-07-2013, 12:13 PM   #21328
Arles
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Join Date: Nov 2000
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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan View Post
So you'd be ok with the left doing the same to the Republican agenda if they were in power? - ie. we won't let you pass a budget/debt ceiling/whatever until you give us ObamaCare/higher minimum wage etc. ...
There were 8 shutdowns when Reagan was president (dems), one under HW Bush (Dems) and two under Clinton (Rep). The reason it hasn't happened lately is the congress wasn't going to do that around 9/11 and the democrats never had the votes in W's second term. Same goes for Obama's first term.

History has shown if you have the political will (and votes to cause a stalemate), the side not in power will use it.
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