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Old 10-17-2013, 04:31 PM   #2587
Arles
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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA View Post
Sure there's more to it than that. Start with the various degrees of "hate".

I'd say one of them stands alone in a category by themselves
Yankees

Then a sick-of or loathed-pretty-good group
Dodgers/Giants/Braves/Red Sox

Then a pair that's either rising to/falling out of the second category
Cardinals/Phillies

Then, today, "the rest"
A's/Angels
Seems pretty fair to me. Only the Angels have not had much success lately on this list - but they've been "the 90s Knicks of baseball" in throwing a bunch of money on washed up guys and that can irk people.

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6) The Cards have steadily inched their way from knowledgeable loving fan base to obnoxious gitdom.
I think when you win multiple World Series and have the success they've had, you get a lot of "new fans". We saw it with the Red Sox a few years back. So, you begin to have more blowhards supporting your team and that don't have the perspective of the longer term fans. It's what happens when your team wins - such is life.

If the Cardinals had been like the Cubs the past 7 years, they wouldn't be on this list. It's not the players or the city or the manager, it's whether or not you are winning. When you win, the number of bandwagon/obnoxious fans that become more vocal from you winning and the jealousy/contempt that opposing fans generate is higher. People used to hate the Mets when I grew up. Now, no one cares and they are even in a big market. Winning is the main prequisite. After that happens, the opinion starts to decrease over time.
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