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Originally Posted by molson
I don't think anyone's argued that the correlation is 100%, that all winning teams are hated and all shitty or irrelevant teams are popular. I see posters bringing up these random examples of quality teams that don't have a lot of internet hate, but they just seem like exceptions, and debatable exceptions at that. If a team is good they're relevant, and there will be more expressed opinions about that team and its fan-base, both good and bad.
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Originally Posted by molson
It's an AMAZING coincidence that they're also the most successful franchise ever, have the most hall of famers, get the most media attention. I mean, what are the odds?
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This seems like arguing out of both sides of the mouth: "Correlation isn't 100% but IT'S DAMN NEAR".
Personal examples that mean nothing but growing up in the 90s, I disliked the Cowboys but was fine with the 49ers. I disliked the Yankees but had nothing against the Braves. And neither of these were personal dislikes, particularly, in a way that I disliked the Red Wings because they were a rival of the Blackhawks but was ok with Colorado (for that late 90s rivalry). Even of more recent dynasties, I don't have any particular malice towards the Patriots or Spurs (as long as they lose to the Rockets). But I would not have characterized myself as a 49ers, Braves, etc fan as I had teams I was much more entrenched as a fan of in those sports (Oilers, 4th generation Cubs fan growing up).
To use another recent example, the Heat are hated "disproportionately" to their success and I think we can all see why. Even before they had won anything, EVERYONE wanted them to lose in 2011 to the Mavs.
I think what a lot of us are taking umbrage to is the implication or outright claim that it's pure jealousy. Yes, you pretty much have to win to be hated (unless we're talking personal rivalries). But some winning teams are hated more than others.
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