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Old 04-03-2015, 12:03 PM   #811
cheekimonk
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Originally Posted by path12 View Post
Where have I deflected that? I've never claimed he didn't.

I didn't say you claimed he didn't. I said you deflected from that fact:

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Originally Posted by path12
Are you saying that only Aiel's can steal? I don't think that is true because if I searched the person who has the Horn I would get it, which is stealing and I am Illian.

Vaimes said he was Aiel and that he stole the Warder's Cloak from Chief. Changing the argument into "other people could have done" what Vaimes already admitted he did is deflecting. It's a standard debate tactic and is used in courtrooms around the world every day: cast doubt on something tangentially related to the facts to lure a long argument that will ultimately cause some to conclude "if there's doubt about that, then there's doubt about the facts" when, of course, there is not.

I gave you the odds of Vaimes, and only Vaimes, doing what he has admitted, and we know, he did. Not an Aiel. Not an Illian. Not any specific item. The probability that Vaimes, specifically, could do, specifically, what he did by luck (lucky for the Dark, of course) is 0.9%.
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