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Old 10-26-2015, 12:17 PM   #25721
molson
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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho View Post
My serious reply to your question is contained in my response to Imran earlier in this post.

All right...

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho View Post
Trust me, I get that. And to be fair I'm sure Ryan ardently believes this. However, at what point do you look at decades of evidence that your legislative philosophy does not produce its intended result and think to revise your philosophy?

Ryan clearly believes in a work-life balance. He clearly gives perks along these lines to his staff. Unless he's completely uninterested in the welfare (along these lines) of the general public (which seems unlikely, given his actions), why hew to such a consistent line against such legislation? Hypocrisy? Legislative Purity? Naivete?


That didn't answer my question of what you want Ryan to do now. Because of his votes, he's just morally disqualified from seeking a "work-life" balance for himself now? What would that entail? How could he go about that to your satisfaction?

Or maybe you're just using the new news about him seeking a work-life balance to criticize those prior votes. As for his motive with those votes, I'm sure it's just fiscal and pro-business. A lot of Republicans think that if you can get the same work from employees at a cheaper cost, you should try to, and businesses and government agencies should be free to do that. And we all agree with that to a point, the differences are just how far along that line we are. Some think employees are entitled to more, some think employees are entitled to less. I don't think where you are on that line says anything about what you're morally entitled to try to negotiate for yourself though. And if does, where is that line? Is it just if you don't think employees are entitled to some specific benefit, you shouldn't seek it yourself? You don't seem to be going that far, hence shooting down the Obama/Sanders comparison. So why is Ryan different? What is it about his views that make him a hypocrite as opposed to someone more liberal who also seeks things for themselves that they don't think the general public is entitled to?

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