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Old 12-21-2015, 06:36 PM   #1890
molson
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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan View Post
I don't think its 'just' that - but more that many people believe in a fair society with certain things as a 'right', healthcare, education etc. ... there are a fair few of us who are happy to potentially pay higher taxes for the betterment of others.

(and I don't expect everyone present to agree with me on this - that's cool, differences of opinion are all part of living in a free democratic society etc.)

PS - I don't look down on anyone who disagrees with me, but as someone who wouldn't have had the quality of life that I have without access to free education and healthcare I think it'd be ill of me to pretend to be a self made man and ignore the leg up it gave me ..

Obama and Clinton would also like to tax the rich more (so would I - I think the rich are a valuable asset that we should get more from), but Sanders seems to bring something extra to the table rhetoric-wise, something Trump-like. It's something that riles up a base of supporters differently than merely advocating for a particular position does. It always feels dishonest and insincere to me, it's an appeal to emotions and human needs to scapegoat others and hold yourself up as something better. Some of that is necessary in politics I guess. But it's what I don't like about the extremes, and yes, obviously extreme Republicans do this also, and if anyone posts that you're going to go to hell if you don't vote Republican I'm not on board with that either.

With far-left liberals though, it's weirder to me. It's harder to reconcile the professed caring for poor people with the hateful dismissing of poor people who happen not to vote the correct way or who hold conservative values (there are a LOT of poor conservatives in this country). That's what makes it feel more like something that's motivated by playing politics rather than actually helping people. I don't think Sanders personally exudes that, but I think there's a lot of it on this board and among his supporters, and I think Sanders is trying to tap into that.

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