[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I feel like I'm banging my head on the wall at this point.

WHEN DID HE LOSE CONCENTRATION IN THE FIGHT AGAINST REY? Because it isn't in the movie.

I just watched the scene again. When he tries to call the saber, his hand is visibly shaking. Not really the mark of a force user who has complete concentration.

And there doesn't have to be a completely obvious shot of him losing concentration at each point of the battle. It would be dumb to see it edited that way. You have been arguing that it isn't believable for Ren to be weakened because of the crossbow blast (based on what Vader does in ROTS). The reason I bring up the part where he hits his side is to show that if at that part of the battle he can be distracted enough to stop fighting completely, then the wound can clearly cause him to fight at less than full strength just a few minutes later.