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Originally Posted by JPhillips
So the people that don't support Trump are more responsible than the people that do?
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It's not a binary choice. But when you hear that GWB is the Antichrist, and John McCain is the worst, and Mitt Romney is terrible, at a certain point you stop listening to those people. When you're called a racist if you say BLM is going too far, or called a babykiller if you refuse to sign a petition pushing for GWB's indictment on war crimes, or you're constantly condescended to and belittled if you attend church or support some "right-wing" positions, naturally you're not going to pay attention if someone comes along that actually does embody some of the extremist fears because it's the same tired attacks and talking points used against any R candidate, and the same ones we'd be hearing against Cruz, Rubio or Kasich if they were leading.
This isn't to place all the blame on the vocal left fringe, because clearly there are right-wing extremists too, and a lot of blame goes to the news networks that have helped turn politics into a team sport where both sides hang out in their echo chamber instead of actually engaging in real discussions and trying to find common ground, but if you've seen the PC police at work on college campuses or on social media they're not interested in discussing things, they just want to shout down dissent and/or mock anyone who believes the opposite position (or just doesn't believe strongly enough in it I guess, as HRC and Bernie found out recently.) I voted for Bernie Tuesday, I still find Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric abhorrent and un-American, but a part of me is rooting for him just to see those people's heads explode (and because I think a Trump victory over HRC would be the best thing long-term for progressive causes and lead to a Democratic wave before the 2020 elections which will decide the next re-districting.)
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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69
Yeah, I found that pretty fantastical to believe.
Feel like Trump's support is rooted in the rejection of fact-based debate in support of "truthiness"... and fear-mongering racism that masquerades as patriotism.
That plays great in the South, so it's not a surprise that he's winning there.
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Originally Posted by molson
It's not a moral, "blame" kind of responsibility, but views of some conservatives, especially the rural poor ones, are absolutely shaped by the their perception that those who actually have power and a voice hate and dismiss them as backwards and something inferior.
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He dominated NH and Massachusetts, he's up 2-1 in the polls in Michigan and Illinois a.k.a. the next 2 non-Southern states, Ted Cruz has only beaten him in the most rural and church-going states, and although he is doing slightly better among HS-educated and low-income voters he still has a commanding lead among every income and educational level, but sure Trump's just George Wallace 2.0 appealing strictly to poor, uneducated, Southern white people.
Now, granted, it was actually pretty much a dead heat between him and Kasich in the smarter, wealthier towns here, but I would absolutely take Trump in a heartbeat over Cruz and Rubio. And it's worth looking at why Trump is polling at 30%+ among college educated people, higher income voters, and independents, instead of buying in to the narrative and implying that every Trump voter is a poor dumb bigot.