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Originally Posted by BYU 14
I agree with most of that, poorly handled and setting things up for a bad outcome. But all five officers had this mindset? Cops don't go to work thinking, "Man, I hope I get to shoot someone today" Shitty cops may shoot prematurely, or act too aggressively, panic or just plain fuck up. But saying it is pre-meditated is a strong statement.
Again, go do a sit training course if available in your area, or go out for a couple of hours. I am not denying there are terrible cops out there, but you would get a deeper understanding for how difficult it is to make snap judgments like this.
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When he ordered online and took the time to install his custom EP dust cover stating "You're Fucked" - You think he did this because...why?
When he was disciplined two weeks prior for drawing a weapon on a teenage girl during a traffic stop...what was he thinking?
I agree in the instant before the shot the dead guy acted improperly. But he was put into that situation by the trained LEO. I would even suggest that a trained LEO should have known he was intoxicated and have known he couldnt comply with the requests being made. The he intentionally made them so vague as to cause him to screw up so he could shoot him.
Watch it again. When dealing with the female he gives simple single commands and waits for her to respond. With the guy he repeatedly barks out two or three commands in rapid succession and tells him 3 times 'I am going to shoot you' further terrorizing the guy.
I've been racking my brain about how I would react in the dead guys place...especially if Id had a few drinks.
Or about what he could have done to ensure he stays alive. IF he doesn't pull up his shorts they trip him, he falls forward and they shoot because he lunged at them.
I think the only tjhing to do would be lay down, face down, hands straight out at my side and refuse to move. "I fear for my safety. I am not moving please detain me" I dont know what else to do.