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Originally Posted by BYU 14
I agree with most of that, poorly handled and setting things up for a bad outcome. But all five officers had this mindset? Cops don't go to work thinking, "Man, I hope I get to shoot someone today" Shitty cops may shoot prematurely, or act too aggressively, panic or just plain fuck up. But saying it is pre-meditated is a strong statement.
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No, only one guy shot. The other guy played Simon Says until he screwed up. The other cops in that hallway didn't feel he was a threat.
I don't know if pre-meditated is the right word. It sure feels like something they wanted to happen. They had him on his stomach with his legs crossed and hands on his head. A perfect position to walk over and cuff him. The fact they didn't do that makes me think their motivation wasn't to end this peacefully. And the cops ever confusing commands and threats of execution to a man who was clearly not a threat seemed to only put themselves in a position where he might screw up and they could shoot him.
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Originally Posted by BYU 14
Again, go do a sit training course if available in your area, or go out for a couple of hours. I am not denying there are terrible cops out there, but you would get a deeper understanding for how difficult it is to make snap judgments like this.
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I'm sure it is difficult which is why the job isn't for everyone. Also why a police department and other cops should spot nutcases like the guy giving commands and the guy who shot and inform their superiors they have no business being on the force.
The problem with the "few bad apples" argument is that the "good cops" will cover for them. Even in this case the officers got together to omit important facts from the report. How would training help change that culture?