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Originally Posted by tarcone
Spin it how you want.
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It's not spin. As you know, I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a fan of Biden. I have no axe to grind here aside from a general strong dislike of Trump.
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Originally Posted by tarcone
I talk to people outside my bubble. If you dont think those people that came out and voted fro Trump wont in 2020 after all the crap the dems threw at him this past year and then this virus and the strength of the economy, you are sorely mistaken.
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I don't think they'll do it because they didn't in '18, because in literally every special election that's been held the GOP has significantly underperformed what Trump did in '16, and because the polling data all points that way.
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Originally Posted by tarcone
If HRC couldnt do it, what makes you think Biden can?
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Biden isn't disliked nearly as much as HRC. Hillary was the second-worst presidential candidate in modern history behind Trump. Again that's not opinion, it's what the favorable/unfavorable splits tell us. Biden is basically break-even on that question, far better than either of them; Hillary was double-digits underwater by this point in '16 and stayed there. He's simply a far better candidate, not because I say so but because the public says so.
I live in rural Michigan, where there is not nearly the anti-Biden sentiment as there was anti-Hillary. I mention this only because it's just as relevant as your on-the-ground observations, which is to say anecdotally interesting vis a vis our individual experiences but not at all germane in the big picture.