[timmae]

Agreed bhlloy. We have a lot of information that we do not yet know. Several different roles could affect the balance as well as night actions, none of which is clear to the wolves. There are a lot of quiet people out there that may know more than most of us at this point. I am hoping we can start to game the system come D2 and know even more D3. Not sure when the tipping point for game over may be... somewhere around D4? Both villagers and vampires need equal numbers to wolves AND to get rid of any other entity (note "any other entity"). A lynch and a NK of some sort along with conversions and secret abilities and this could all happen pretty quickly.