[timmae]

Ok, after sleeping on it and thinking things through I think we (wolfies) are in pretty good shape. Really good shape if we have a seer and some info. Worst case in my mind is that render is a wise wolf and picked me to look at. At any rate, we are down to 8. Hopefully at worst we have 3 villagers or 2 villagers and 2 vamps. Since no one has any info on vamps (even a villager who was a vamp D1 would likely indicate their presence since they also need to get rid of the vamps to win) maybe we have 3 villagers. It is likely 5 against 3 unless existence of a vamp is exposed. It would be crazy if both vamps stayed vamps. If villager seeking revenge is in play then after tonight we could be down to 3 against 2. Then after N3 we would be 1 to 0. Win. Am I an idiot or are we ok?

Note, my two solids are no longer here but I have a small trust group in lsg, telle and ge right now.

My evil empire group right now consists of render, bhlloy, brit and henry.

I could still be an idiot though so let's discuss all of this.