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Old 01-26-2022, 02:15 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98 View Post
How is ARod/Bonds/Clemens actions not an integrity of the game issue, like Rose's? Do y'all not remember how many times they forcefully denied PED use?

How is Ortiz not an integrity of the game issue if ARod/Bonds/Clemens are?

I thought the issue was them using PEDs not that they forcefully denied it?

I think David Ortiz should be in. I think the best players of the generation should get in whether they used PEDs or not. However, if the voters have decided that anyone who has tested positive, been rumored to have tested positive, are rumored to maybe have used PEDs during the career will not be voted into the Hall of Fame, fine. I will disagree but that is the standard. But that is not the case.

David Ortiz tested positive for PEDs. Like others of that time, I don't believe that it was his first and only time using PEDs nor do I believe that the PEDs got into his body accidentally. His numbers are as questionable as any other baseball player during that time who has been associated with PEDS because we don't actually know for sure when they started and when they stopped. Once again, I don't think this should preclude him from getting in. By voting Ortiz in, the voters agree with me. It would be nice to know all the valid reasons why they did not Bonds and Clemmens. PED use is no longer a valid reason.
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