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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz
Politics itself is about control. Religion is not some special category while the rest of society doesn't care about control. Tax policy, regulations, zoning laws, all about controlling what people do. Many of them justified of course, but that's still what it's about. You can't have a functional society with a measure of control.
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Fair point...it is just that religion is generally stunted growth of the rational.
God man angry that babies being aborted.
The same logic Alito is using that abortion wasn't in the constitution should be used to ban cars because they aren't in there either...
We need to go back to horse and buggies.
I grew up 12 years a Catholic, very devout. I left that bubble and gained a perspective on how the world really was. ( I mean I started getting leery when our Sex Ed was taught by priests who you know shouldn't know the first thing about sex). Of course part of the indoctrination was watching "Silent Scream" in which we got to see a baby aborted (I think that was 6 or 7th grade). Mind you we never saw a video of child birth because "vaginas"!
Religion in the United States (and elsewhere) including Evangelicalism is to keep you stupid and obedient and filling their coffers.
Now that being said, I don't immediately swing for science on every decision but I do apply the critical thinking I've learned from science to influence my decisions. But I did use morality to help raise a daughter that wasn't mine from her birth to finally adopting her at 20 (My confirmation saint name is Joseph - go figure). Religion did teach me wrong from right but science taught me to ask what is good, what is right, how did we get here? I learned that there is more than black and white, most of the world is gray and that chaos is pretty much our standard of living.
Everything we think of as order is just a mirage, no different than a dollar having actual value, we believe it does because everyone else believes. The so called woke are just calling bullshit on a lot of it and that pisses off those that profit off of it. Now I do think some aspects of religion, their followers and the churches/places of faith do try to help but because we're human if we don't identify as the same, then you're an outsider.
My own sense of faith is this: if there is a God, and it created everything, then it also created evil, it created chaos, it created death. We want to say God is good and the light, but like anyone wanted to created a sanitized version of things we excise the bad parts.
(I mean if you believe that God is all-knowing but that he created angels that were obedient to him but then Lucifer revolted and created a hell (did Lucifer create it or was God just building a place for Lucifer to hang out?) or that God created a person named Judas and that he knew he'd betray his only son, was God good with that? If Judas didn't exist would Jesus been crucified?
I know that theologist talk "free will" but isn't that a cop out of believe it or not. The whole paradox can God created a stone that even "he" couldn't lift.
Perhaps that's why waaaaaayyyyy back the founders of this country wanted Religion and Government separated because of the corruption/desecration of the basic principles of this country?
I may have 30 more good years here on Earth, perhaps with age and experience and with raising children, I've become more invested in this country, but it sucks to think how terrible this nation has become under conservative principles and how much worse its going to be.
If people like Ted Cruz, JD Vance and Marjorie Greene are the face of conservatives with Orange Shitgibbon then what do we really got to look forward to here?