[albionmoonlight]

Every other civilized country in the world has figured this out. Make it hard to get guns. Make it hard to get body armor. You reduce the mass murder of innocents. This is a problem with a trivially simple solution that has successfully been done around the world.

If the response by some folks is that they'd prefer it to be easy to obtain guns and body armor and slaughtering a bunch of kids 4-5 times a year is the price they are willing to pay, then I strongly disagree with that. But at least it's honest. I'm willing to accept tens of thousands of traffic deaths per year in exchange for a world with cars. But I don't try to pretend that it isn't a choice. Or that we'd have the same number of fatal crashes with horses and bicycles.

Pretending that this issue is complicated insults our intelligence.

Engaging the "guns don't kill people; people kill people" crowd at this point is not just useless; it is actively harmful b/c it distracts for the debates we should be having.