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Old 06-01-2022, 07:00 PM   #2171
Brian Swartz
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Originally Posted by Edward64
Before taking all guns away from law abiding citizens, let's see if we can stop all/most gun violence from non-law abiding people first. Then propose taking away all guns. My question is why take away the right/privilege from law abiding citizens first?

I think we have enough information based on having different laws in different places at different times to conclude that a lot of gun violence is going to remain regardless of the lesser measures. It's not a matter of trying other things first, it's a matter of what level of gun violence we are ready to accept as a nation. As your rightly point out, mass shootings are small compared to the larger picture. It's also true that in the 90s the homicide rate was almost twice what it is now.

If we say 'you know, if we could stop the upward trend in mass shootings or maybe even reduce the current amount somewhat' and we'd be happy with that, yes policies like background checks have a shot at making that happen.

If we want to get anywhere remotely close to where other major industrialized nations are around the world, we just need to have a lot fewer guns in circulation, or have a far more moral population.
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