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Old 06-08-2022, 02:31 PM   #2310
flere-imsaho
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Originally Posted by Edward64 View Post
When it comes to who is doing the pulling of the trigger, it is primarily criminals and mentally unstable. So why start with law abiding, not mentally unstable citizens first?

Because, again, it's about the widespread availability of guns.

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So .9% is not relevant to debate? I actually think it is. So < 1% of abortions take place after 24st week. No need to talk about that?

Sure, works for me.

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho
I'd guess the majority of the pro-choice crowd would be OK with a ban (or not seek to overturn such a ban) on 2nd/3rd trimester abortions were it not for the fact that the pro-life crowd would (and does) simply use such a ban as a foundation upon which to build support for a full ban (and abstinence-only sex education, and raising the age of consent, and a ban on some contraception methods, etc...). Conversely, I'd guess a large chunk of the pro-life crowd would be OK with a certain flexibility during the 1st trimester, especially in cases of rape, incest or severe medical danger to the mother, fetus or both, but will never agree to this since it's tacitly conceding defeat to a portion of the pro-choice crowd's argument.

I'm 100% OK with a ban on 3rd trimester abortions with exceptions only where the life of the mother is threatened. Not even rape or incest because IMO you've still got the first two trimesters to deal with that.
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