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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho
Two people have now answered your question on bans, Edward, yet you refuse to answer the question as to why every other developed nation has virtually zero mass shootings. Why will you not answer?
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Just doublechecked and Lathum's version is the same as yours.
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So how do you explain literally every other developed nation with gun restrictions having virtually no mass shootings?
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To answer your question ...
I am not saying banning all guns will not solve the problem of no more gun killings. Logically it will. Other developed nations have significant gun restrictions and bans and therefore gun deaths have declined significantly.
Just like for me, logically removing criminal elements and mentally unstable will significantly reduce the number of gun deaths. (This is apparently a point of debate from Grantdawg and Flere, I've not had a chance to look through their sources yet. But until then, this is my default assumption)
Do we want law abiding citizens to give up their privilege & constitutional right to own any guns because criminal elements and mentally unstable are the cause of the majority of gun deaths? The other developed nations used as examples never had a constitutional right to own guns.
Where we differ is
1) I'm not willing to give up my privilege & constitutional right to own guns with significant controls (e.g. my previous example of 7 of 10) as a law abiding citizen with no significant mental health challenges.
It seems many of you are willing to abandon this privilege at this point in time. We'll agree to disagree.
2) For me to even consider this, I want the authorities to ban & remove all/most guns from criminal elements and mentally unstable first. Then let's see where we are in 3-5 years. The gun death rates may be so significantly lowered that it's not as pressing of an issue anymore.