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Originally Posted by miami_fan
Why do you have a problem with the Glazers? I believe the Glazer ownership is problematic but I don't think a change of ownership will solve what is ailing the club on the pitch.
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This guy actually summed it up pretty well:
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Originally Posted by miami_fan
At some point, someone has to decide what the plan is for Manchester United going forward. The fact that everyone on the football side has let it get to this point disqualifies them from being a part of that side moving forward. They got their feelings hurt when Rangnick said what needed to be done. I don't care if he was not the person to say it or be in charge of the reorganization. He was correct in his assessment of the club.
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IMO, all of this comes back to the owners. Successful clubs, by and large, like successful organizations in other spheres, set up a structure of people who know what they're doing, establish clear goals, and ensure that everyone stays committed to and focused on those goals.
Just compare and contrast to how the hierarchy is set up at both Man City and Liverpool, for instance.
The Glazers, instead, put Woodward in charge, who had no idea what he was doing. He then hired a series of dramatically different managers under what we must guess was an assumption that if you just find someone good enough, they'll make the whole thing work, like Fergie did. But a) Fergie had Gill and 20+ years of building the institution and b) these clubs are now simply too big for someone to run the whole thing. Even Guardiola & Klopp don't run the whole thing.
Worse, without some sort of footballing vision, those dramatically different managers have left United with a playing squad that doesn't work well together.
Take Aaron Wan-Bissaka, for instance. He excelled at Crystal Palace because his excellent one-on-one defense suited a club that would routinely be overwhelmed by better opponents. However, in the modern game, top clubs need fullbacks who have attacking skills, which he clearly did not, and still does not, have. Nevertheless, he worked OK/well for Solskjaer because Solskjaer was playing a mainly reactive counter-attacking system. But when you bring in a "modern" tactical coach like ETH, who is looking to play a high line and needs attacking full backs to spread the field and provide creative options, AWB is a liability.
I don't need the Glazers to know about football. Goodness knows John Henry didn't when he bought Liverpool and the same is true for Khaldoon Al Mubarak and Sheik Mansour.
What I need is for them to hire highly competent people who have specialist experience in managing football clubs and let them go and do that. Arnold, an accountant, is not that. Murtough, for all his experience in development and sports science, is showing from his choices since he got the job from Woodward, that he is not up to the task. And anyway, why would we think Woodward's right-hand man would be the answer? Fletcher has far too little experience. Compare these to their counterparts at the other top EPL clubs, and even mid-table ones like Brighton, and they come up very short.
So, why do I have a problem with the Glazers? Because clearly none of this changes while they own the club. It's been 10 years since Ferguson retired. They've shown no ability to learn from experience and move the club in the direction of a modern club. And why would they? They inherited everything from their father. They've never built anything themselves. They've never had to do the really hard work of buckling down and making something work that is not working, because they were born into wealth and have stayed in wealth. I have very little faith that any of this will change.
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Originally Posted by MIJB#19
There is no comparison for two reasons. Firstly, as a coach, Erik ten Hag (not "Haag") has a much better track record than Frank de Boer.
But more importantly, neither De Boer or Ten Hag had a track record as a manager to speak of, as that's a completely separate job at Ajax and pretty much every football club in the Netherlands. Quite simply, Ten Hag has no experience in the management line of work.
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This is a really good point. A lot of the stuff with which ETH is struggling are the greater "management" scope he didn't have to do at Ajax. And that's really bad at Man Utd because no one else in the organization really knows what they're doing so just like all of the appointments since Moyes, the hierarchy is looking for him to fix everything.
To be honest, I'm not even sure Guardiola, Klopp, Conte, Tuchel, Ancelotti, etc... would be able to succeed at Man Utd the way things are now.