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Old 09-03-2022, 10:35 AM   #124
sterlingice
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Originally Posted by Edward64 View Post
I do think there are negatives that will come out of "Don't Say Gay" bill (just as there will be positives too).

But no, I do not think 3rd grade teachers will be killed for instructing on "sexual orientation or gender identify" when they should not have been.

Also, things that apparently don't count in this ridiculously silo'd test:
  • K-2nd grade teachers who are murdered by a radicalized nutter because he thinks they're instructing about gender identity
  • 4th-12th grade teachers who are murdered by a radicalized nutter because he thinks they're instructing about gender identity
  • Any grade teachers above or below 3rd grade for any of the following
  • 3rd grade teachers who are murdered by a radicalized nutter because he thinks they're teaching CRT
  • 3rd grade teachers who are merely harmed by a radicalized nutter because he thinks they're instructing about gender identity
  • 3rd grade teachers who are merely threatened by a radicalized nutter because he thinks they're instructing about gender identity
  • 3rd grade teachers who are murdered by a radicalized nutter because he thinks they're instructing about gender identity but that's not what his lawyer says was the reason he did it
  • 3rd grade teachers who are murdered by a radicalized nutter because he thinks they're instructing about gender identity but also has stuff about how he thinks Dems are groomers and all sorts of other crap so we can't confirm that he killed the teacher just because of gender identity - it could have been any myriad of things from his tapestry of crazy
  • 3rd grade teachers who are murdered by a radicalized nutter because he thinks they're instructing about gender identity and totally has horrible stuff about it on his social media history but "we just can't know what's in his heart"
Also not included in the above but apparently don't count either:
  • Impacts of loss of job for individual qualified teachers
  • Massive teacher shortage in Florida
  • Any negative effects of having unqualified teachers teaching in Florida from individual bad incidents that would likely not have happened with professional teachers to larger effects like education disparity
  • Impacts on society of a less educated populace because of any the above
  • The chilling effect on free speech that laws like this have
  • Any of the other myriad of other bad effects mentioned in this thread or even ones not mentioned in this thread
Good thing none of that counts. Or at least not in this thread.

It's almost as if, after at least a dozen thoughtful posts by someone with a lot more expertise in the area as well as other competing viewpoints, you've shrunk your rhetorical "attack space" to such a tiny place. All that by looking at it through a ridiculously silo'd perspective that has nothing at all to do with the real world implications of the intent of the bill.

Or maybe it's just a bad faith argument. But go ahead, agree to disagree. Just don't be surprised when it keeps getting pointed out how demonstrably farcical is it on its face when you keep saying "but, hey, at least a 3rd grade teacher didn't die" and "anything else is goalpost moving".

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