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Old 10-27-2022, 05:57 PM   #84
Solecismic
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Originally Posted by Edward64 View Post
I believe you are referring to "hidden variables" (e.g. we can't see them or know how to detect the variables/attributes yet) in or between the 2 entangled particles. What I've read/seen is there are no hidden variables, it's the equivalent of a flowchart's "and magic happens here box". Bell's theorem and the findings was in the video.

Bell's theorem - Wikipedia



In other words, it does seem that 2 entangled particles interact/communicate (whatever the word is) once they are measured/observed, and not because they had these predetermined hidden variables already. I know, I don't get it but that's what the eggheads are saying.

It's what Einstein called it "spooky magic at a distance" and said there are/had to be hidden variables, and he has (so far) been proven wrong.

It's magic. I've seen an explanation as to possibly why/how because it's a "wave function" shared between the 2 particles but it still does not explain how it works (theoretically and magically) faster than light.

There's one more piece. The experiments showed local variables aren't at work, but not that the entire function of disentanglement might contain all that's needed to maintain the relationship. Measurements are still very elementary at this point.

Einstein hasn't been proven wrong. Nor is he necessarily correct. He is certainly not around to add to the discussion, since time travel is impossible.

What he meant by "spooky magic" is the concept that instantaneous communication is possible at any distance. If it is taking place, a remarkable leap that violates what we think we know about physics, we can't yet even come close to showing it. Maybe there's a future Nobel winner designing those experiments right now.
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