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Old 08-20-2023, 05:21 PM   #382
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Originally Posted by JPhillips View Post
I think this is right, but it requires a lot of moderate GOPers to vote D and that's tough to make actually happen.



They haven't won anything since 2016 and they're still on the Trump train because it drives turnout.

It's amazing, really. They allowed Trump to take such a hold on the GOP because he's driven away a significant portion of swing voters, turned away suburban moms and other groups, but he's brought in enough people that generally don't follow politics to keep elections competitive. Since that base is all that's keeping the GOP competitive right now they're trying to ride out the Trump wave. Losing isn't bothering them because accepting these MAGA voters is the only way they can win an election right now and the party refuses to look at the big picture in the long term.

The GOP has had countless opportunities to take an exit away from Trump yet here we are. I think it's naive at this point to think further losing is going to do anything more than embolden them to act on the belief that the only reason they're losing is because dems are stealing elections.

We're going to see MAGA splinter groups for the foreseeable future. Whether it's moms for liberty or whatever comes along next. These groups are really good at finding weaknesses in local leadership, taking over, and creating movements into national politics.
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