Quote:
Originally Posted by miami_fan
There is no need for the distinction. Our history is littered with examples of our lack of desire for both. I say that without assigning a value judgement. I don’t think that can be disputed.
|
We will agree to disagree here. There are different degrees of acceptance or lack of. Legal immigration is more accepted than illegal.
If you can find a poll to support your contention it makes no difference, please provide a link.
Quote:
|
See above. If they are not adamant about Dreamers being denied legal status, they don’t need convincing. They would be more aligned with the 20% who feel the same way, not by their choice but by the 60% who is not aligning themselves with anyone who are not adamant. If anyone was willing to change their minds in exchange for pork, election funds, increased Border Security funding or just about anything else, it was never as important to them as they would have had us believe. They would have flipped already.
|
Most everyone has a "price", Congressperson included. For the 11%, no need to show your cards or give in too early if you can get something for the vote.
Quote:
|
You need people willing and capable of making backroom deals. Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your perspective, the voters are sending fewer dealmakers to Congress every election.
|
I agree with this.
But Joe has done better than most here would have thought considering how divisive things were at the start of 2021. He got some deals done and hoping for one more for Immigration.