[thesloppy]

I don't give the slightest shit about illegal immigration and there is already a robust system in place that has been serving well my entire life as far as I can tell. As such the dividing line for me is "as soon as someone can tell me how it affects me in ANY significant way"

At this point the absolute undeniable biggest effect it has on my life (or yours until evidence to the contrary) is it's use as a wedge issue to drive panic votes to Donald Trump. The changes that need to be made to fix that have nothing to do with the border.