[Edward64]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

So you think that a U.S. public that has a huge problem with all the undocumented workers being here even while believing (75%) that the undocumented workers are mostly likely doing jobs that Americans don't want. A U.S. public in which Trump supporters(probably the most fervent opponents of undocumented workers) are more likely to believe that LEGAL immigrants are doing jobs that Americans would like to have (44%) than they think ILLEGAL immigrants are doing jobs that Americans would like to have(37%). You think those people want more highly qualified highly skilled immigrants to come here and take jobs that could be filled by native born Americans or worse yet repl---(this word is kind of sensitive in this context) native born Americans who are doing those jobs right now? You expect those people and/or the people who represent them to have that political will?

No, I am not at all optimistic there is the political will. I've stated the crux of the problem is Dems want pathway to citizenship for the 11M+ illegals, the GOP do not.

Therefore as President Edward, I want to have a holistic immigration reform. And my compromise (as previous documented) is to have all the non-felon illegal convert to renewable guest workers (non-voting) and increase legal immigration (voting) by giving preference to skillsets/education over, let's say, 10 years.

Okay, then

Again, that distinction you keep harping on is not really a thing here.

If you mean distinction between legal and illegal immigrants, we'll agree to disagree. I contend the US population will be more willing to accept legal immigrants through a structured process than converting the 11M+ illegals to 11M+ legals with voting rights.

All the evidence suggest that the Nordics don't have a refugee problem.

They have a refugees from the Middle East problem.

ME refugees is a subset of all refugees. Therefore, it stands to reason they do have an overall refugee problem?

They have no problem with taking in Ukrainian refugees. The policies are focused on keeping Middle Eastern refugees out of their countries and it is at least partly due to the homogeneous makeup of the country. They are not trying to hide that fact.

I think you are saying that Denmark (let's just focus on Denmark per my earlier caveat) is a racist country and would prefer Ukrainian vs Middle Eastern refugees?

See below stats from AI summary ...

As of 2022, the largest group of refugees in Denmark were from Ukraine, with nearly 33,000 people. The second largest group were Syrians, with fewer than 20,000 people, and the third largest were from Eritrea, with nearly 6,000 people.

In below link, there is a chart of "TOP 5 NATIONALITIES SEEKING ASYLUM IN DENMARK 2019-2023". A fair number are non-Ukrainian.

How many refugees are coming to Denmark

I think the Bill Maher quote applies to Denmark. I mean, if Denmark/Nordics, the paragon of progressive thinking believes they have a problem, then I guess there is a problem. And if you believe Denmark is a racist country, I don't personally believe it, but okay. So?

The HBO star (Bill Maher) then quoted The Atlantic’s David Frum, who warned “If liberals insist that enforcing borders is a job only fascists will do, then voters will hire fascists to do what liberals won’t.”

“Voters keep saying over and over again we are not comfortable with this level of immigration. I understand why. It doesn’t make you a racist to say that,” Maher said.

If someone wants US citizenship, I want them to follow the link to the 10 Steps of Naturalization on the UCIS webpage and follow all of those steps.

10 Steps to Naturalization | USCIS

If they get to step now and they are close, I will come by and take the corny picture of them holding up their Certificate of Naturalization and their little U.S. flag. I have a good bit of experience doing so.

Fine by me. Step 2 indicates the 11M+ illegals are not eligible to become citizens.

But then, the link doesn't talk about how to become a PR which is what citizenship is (primarily) dependent on. If you want the 11M+ illegals to go through the current legal process, I'm good. If Kamala wins and changes the rules, I assume there'll be a fight all the way to SCOTUS, and if Kamala wins, I'm good with accepting the laws.

Yes! Why wouldn't I?

My grandmother wanted citizenship and got it.
My parents wanted citizenship and got it.
Aunts, uncles, cousins, nephews? Same
Wife, sister-in-law and their cousin? Yep them too.
Friends and co-workers? Uh huh

I have even been to a few ceremonies where a deceased veteran has received a posthumous citizenship.

Because, the majority of 11M+ illegals want citizenship. The majority of 158M-160M wanting to come to the US will want citizenship (likely dual). I contend if we open up the US immigration laws and guarantee everyone who applies citizenship, it is unworkable and unwanted.

So, sounds like you do agree with Passacaglia's quote below.

My question to @Passacaglia was predicated on his statement

If so, I'll ask again,

Originally Posted by Edward64 View Post
In below thread, I answered how I would handle the 11M+ illegals as President.

POTUS 2024 - Harris vs Trump - General Election Discussion - Page 88 - Front Office Football Central, see starting #4351

Similar question to you: how would you handle the 158M+ (and the 11M+ illegal) adults that want to immigrate?