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Old 03-02-2025, 08:13 PM   #2258
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Originally Posted by Lathum View Post
Given 33 million people didn't vote and those that did elected Trump despite knowing who and what he is, maybe we don't deserve to be leader of the free world.

We're not. Macron sat with Trump and fact checked him to his face in front of reporters. The rest of the world is starting to realize that Trump is weak and they're willing to call him on this shit. They've effectively said, "the peace deal you were negotiating is shit, we're taking over from here". There's absolutely no way to spin that as anything other than a weak president that isn't respected by our traditional allies.

People have argued for years for a stronger Europe and that they need to step up. That's happening, but it's going to be entirely at the US's expense.

Look at it this way, the only time in NATO history that Article 5 has been invoked was in the wake of 9/11. If there was an escalation between Europe and Russia right now, is anyone confident in saying which side we'd be on?
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