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Old 04-25-2025, 12:39 PM   #368
bhlloy
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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho View Post
Complete organizational malpractice by the Giants. And it's all on the owner.

First, Mara comes out last year and says that "maybe he fired people too quickly" in the past, when asked about Daboll and Schoen.

OK, so he wants to give those two a chance to succeed. Fine.

Come the end of the season you have no QB and a poor QB class, and the feeling is that next year's class is a lot better. The obvious solution is to gut it through another losing season so that you have a high pick to spend on one of those QBs and re-start. You can use your #3 to build up other parts of the squad in anticipation of that.

But you let Schoen go out and sign Wilson & Winston. They're not getting you to the playoffs, especially in that division, but probably winning enough games that you've now lessened your chances on getting that blue chip QB.

That was all bad enough.

But now you've given up capital to pick up a 1st round rookie QB who is absolutely not ready to start on Day One, and who most commentators think is a long shot to become a starting NFL QB, never mind a good one.

So what are you going to do now? Play Dart in December when you're out of the playoffs anyway and hope that he's transcendent? If he's not, pick another QB next year and flush all you spent on Dart down the toilet? Or, stick with Dart and finish ~.500 for the next few years, eventually and inevitably firing Schoen & Daboll anyway?

An Owner's job should be to set up the organizational structure for success and on every level Mara has failed. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Thing is, didn't we just had this big debate on this board that the only thing that matters is finding the QB of the future, and so if you don't have a QB then even a mid round first is worth a dart throw?

There's a lot of differing opinions on Dart, and more than one comp I've seen that he's Jalen Hurts. Now obviously it's somewhere between possible and probable he's not, but still. If he's obviously terrible and you take another QB next year, isn't that what everyone is basically saying the NFL is in a state that you should do?

We've also got a lot of history on seeing generational draft classes not pan out that way and players turn into late round picks the next year. Right now it looks like a very strong QB class next year, half of those players on the list could stink or get hurt and the Giants could win enough games to pick 5th and all the good QB's go in the top 4. Outright tanking in the NFL almost never works.

I'm not arguing the Giants are a well run organization, but equally I think it's oversimplistic to say that just throwing this year in the trash with the expectation that they just need to get into the top 5 next year and a franchise QB will be sitting there waiting for them is a solid plan too.

Last edited by bhlloy : 04-25-2025 at 12:39 PM.
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