More definitions & notes
1. Deportation
https://www.usa.gov/deportation-process
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Deportation is the process of removing a noncitizen from the U.S. for violating immigration law. The U.S. may detain and deport noncitizens who:- Participate in criminal acts
- Are a threat to public safety
- Violate their visa
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Note this definition applies to a noncitizen and therefore, a US citizen cannot be deported.
2. Denaturalization
See post #505 link below. Essentially, a naturalized citizenship can be revoked under specific situations (e.g. lying on application form)
https://forumsold.operationsports.co...&postcount=505
3. Detaining a US citizen
I'm tossing this for future reference. From some past discussions, some of you think a LEO asking for identification & detaining a US citizen is fascism. Happens all the time right now (search YT for "police stops").
The key is ...
There needs to be a legitimate/reasonable purpose/suspicion and it shouldn't be for an excessive length of time unless there are extenuating circumstances.
An example I've used previously in this thread, a LEO suspects a DUI, stops the car, asks driver for "id, registration, proof of insurance". If the driver does not cooperate (and yeah, there's plenty), the LEO can detain the person until it gets resolved ... including taking the driver back to the station to be identified. Similar for shoplifting, trying to cash a bad check, domestic violence etc.
Extending it to an ICE detainment, if US citizen is in an area with illegals that are picked up, it's pretty reasonable to detain the US citizen to verify status before releasing.
4. Lack of due process for a US citizen
Yes, there's been some cases that definitely could have been better handled. But note this has been an ICE issue for a while now ...
https://immigrationimpact.com/2021/0...t-us-citizens/
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Additional investigations by oversight agencies, the press, and research organizations have found that thousands of U.S. citizens have been targeted for immigration enforcement since ICE’s founding in 2003. This includes arrests, detention, and in some cases, deportation of American citizens, with one study from 2011 estimating that ICE incarcerated 20,000 U.S. citizens over an eight-year period from 2003 through 2011.
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