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Old 06-07-2025, 02:35 AM   #3508
Edward64
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Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
The Musk hatred on this forum is bizarre. Any other country would be so grateful for a guy bringing so much wealth to a country via his businesses
I agree with this circa early days. But he's turned out to be an ass. Jobs & Gates were also reportedly asses (and probably any billionaire needs to be cut throat) but he's up there. Currently, especially the past 3-4 months, I would say his cons > pros.

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... and trying to fight tooth and nail to stop the U.S. going bankrupt.

Honestly, I don't think this is true. He overpromised and under delivered. His own official tracker said < $200B. Far less than the $2T he first committed to and then the $1T he revised to. And we know the big $ savings opportunities are in Defense, Social Security & Medicare. He bailed pretty early before even touching those. I don't disagree with overall goal of reducing deficit/debt but for his once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, his execution was terrible and the resistance grew. IMO this was more a platform for his "brand" than true desire to cut deficit/debt.

Now, if he does start this 3rd party for the middle-class and/or fund like minded politicians to reduce deficit/debt, I'll gladly admit I was wrong.

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Political brain washing has stopped intelligent people from seeing the world as it is. Especially those who spend so much time with like minded people who continue to reinforce each other's opinions.
There's definitely echo chambers ... on both sides.

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Probably a good few decades before we see this play out. The only way out for the U.S. is enormous GDP growth led by AI and robots perhaps.
IMO the first step is to stop the bleeding. Get back to near/deficit neutral budgets which will require painful cuts in benefits, increased taxes and/or cuts in people & programs. Then work on the $36T+ debt.

Last edited by Edward64 : 06-07-2025 at 02:55 AM.
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