View Single Post
Old 04-06-2016, 01:05 AM   #161
BishopMVP
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Concord, MA/UMass
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkBGregory View Post
Let me provide you with an example: in GW12 right now, there's a 30-year-old player called Guillaume Saint-Waleri. He's roughly 4th/5th in the rankings, but was world number one for years. I checked out his stats when I re-signed up in Feb and I was like, eh, they don't seem that great. Speed/Strength was around 3 at 100%, while Endurance and Talent were 4.5+ - that is, he wasn't necessarily that strong or fast, but he was able to gain experience super, super quickly. I noticed that his Skill level was at 5.2(!) which was at least 0.2 ahead of everyone else - so despite his relatively weak Strength and Speed, it didn't matter because his Skill was so much higher than everyone else. That's why he was top of the world.

So, myself and a friend of mine came up with the following, and ranked our own players according to it:

(Bear in mind that all the values discussed are when a player reaches 100%)

a) Talent and Endurance totals (TE):

1) 9.0+: HIRE THIS PLAYER AT ALL COSTS. Even if the other stats are a little disappointing, you have a brilliant chance of making the top 10 at the very least. Top of the world if it's backed up with good other stats, and even if it's not. (see below).

2) 8.5-9.0: HIRE THIS PLAYER, but make sure they have fairly high other stats. At this level, players might get off to a slow start, but generally have good enough endurance to get through a full week of singles/dubs practice, plus a couple of training sessions/friendly matches, and can be competitive at the top.

3) 8.0-8.5: Worth hanging on to, especially if their other stats are high. In quiet gameworlds, and even in busy ones with the right schedule, these players can still push towards the top 10, but they will need good aging factors and strength and speed to maintain a high position, because otherwise their Endurance will drop too quickly and the player will start to decline.

4) Below 8.0: Don't bother.

b) Speed and Strength values (SS)

Assuming you've hired a player with at least 8.0 TE, then you want to look at their S+S potential, because obviously a player with 8.5 TE and 7.5 SS will do worse than one with the same TE but 8.0 SS

1) IF you can get a SS at 8.0 or higher, that's ideal. Players with 8.5+ TE and 8.0+ SS are generally going to be pretty strong.

2) If your SS is between 7.5-8.0, you could still have a pretty successful career with a player whose TE was 8.0+.

3) If your SS is between 7.0-7.5, then you really want 8.5+ in terms of TE to offset the poor physical stats.

4) If your SS is below 7.0, then unless you have a TE of 9.0+, it's not really worth training this player.

c) Mentality value (M)

Mentality is viewed (by us) as more of an 'added bonus', and we generally don't factor it in to our calculations when deciding whether or not to hire a player. If you're in two minds on a player (maybe one that has 8 TE and 7.5 SS), then if the Mentality is 3.5+, you might want to train the player up until a better option eventually comes along. Apart from that, a TE 9.0 player with 8.0 SS is going to rock, even if the Mentality is zero.

Generally speaking, if your Talent, Endurance, Speed and Strength totals at 100% (TESS value) is 15.5+, then your player has a decent chance of making it.
I've got two guys pushing these boundaries in RR12. Wanted to try raising a smaller country up the RR rankings, so Luxembourg's Arnoud Martens is a poor 5.7 SS with a 104% aging - normally two things I'd try hard to avoid. A solid 8.4 in TE, although unfortunately Talent at 4.9 & Endurance topping at 3.5 (and again, with a short peak). I'm not real certain yet on how high I can get him - being able to get all the extra WC points playing singles/doubles helps a little, but he's still only a 14.1 on the TE scale Arnoud Martens

And the crown jewel, Tommy Simms, who's probably just about peaking at 5.1/3.8 (hoping I can get to 5.2, but I just went early on a serve point because I'm in a slam final). 7.6 SS at his peak, only 3.1 Mentality, and missed out on a lot of WC teams because he was in a bit of a golden generation for Americans with Burle, Hoar and Eizaguirre. Just topped the 8.5 TE barrier. In 4th place right now, just lost a 2nd Slam Final, and facing strong contenders all around for the Slams. Eizaguirre's a grass specialist (unfortunate as Simms has 34% Grass pref and would be a shoo in to win multiple Wimbledon's without a top 10 player who's a grass specialist who's his exact age!), Moretta etc dominating clay, Burle/Jarinov two really solid hardcourt specialists with hardcourt pref just higher than ours. Did just pick up a Masters win, so I've proven I can win at that level. Will have to do a better job managing his form next "year"
Tommy Simms

Last edited by BishopMVP : 04-06-2016 at 02:55 AM.
BishopMVP is offline   Reply With Quote