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Originally Posted by Ksyrup
That's not "clear and obvious." And then when you juxtapose that with some of the judgment calls that are being let stand under the guise of not being "clear and obvious" errors, they aren't consistently applying the standard. Either all calls are right or wrong without deference to the ref if there's judgment involved, or they must be truly clear and obvious errors in all cases. And again, if you're having to put up a line on a video because the video itself is unclear, that decision should stand under a clear and obvious standard.
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So once again, I think you are misinterpreting clear and obvious error, especially with respect to offside. If you draw a line and a toe is over, it's a clear and obvious error. Because the line shows they are offside and therefore the error is clear and it is obvious.
In a lot of other fouls, there isn't such a clear standard and it is based on referee judgement (how much contact is enough to be foul). Offside, as according to the Laws of the Game, has no judgement aspect involved - if any playing part of the body is beyond the second to last defender, you are off.
I will also note that sometimes reviews have taken a long time in order to judge if a foul was outside or inside the box. That's another issue where if the ref judges a foul, if it's inside the box there is no judgement after that. Therefore they take forever to determine that. That doesn't make it any less of a clear and obvious error if the ref originally judged the foul to be outside the box, but after super slow motion realizes that it was inside the box.