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Old 05-08-2019, 08:48 PM   #1242
digamma
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Originally Posted by tarcone View Post
Lost in this whole discussion is all the illegally obtained firearms. The 2A is what gun owners are using to protect themselves.
Is it too far to collect the guns? If not, how would you do it. You go to the registered gun owners first. Now you have a bunch of illegal gun owners continuing to shoot up themselves. And the legal owners feeling unprotected.

I think we have gone too far to have a sensible solution. There is nothing that can be done. It seems like it will continue forever.

You know what is kind of weird when we look into data about guns recovered in crimes. We see that gun laws matter.

In Illinois for instance, we find that more than half of guns recovered in crimes come from out of state, typically from states with less restrictive gun laws. Indiana is the chief exporter--in 2014 21% of guns recovered in Chicago crimes came from Indiana. Indiana is also a representation of the flip side of this argument. About 70% of guns recovered in Indiana crimes were Indiana guns.

Similarly, in NY a relatively small portion of guns recovered in NY crimes were sold in NY. By contrast, you look at less restrictive states and again it is typically 60-70% in state guns used in crimes.

Guns flow from less restrictive states into more restrictive states.

Imagine if we had uniformity? I realize that is a tough proposition, given different legitimate hunting and other differences, but this is exactly what you see the NRA pushing towards on the other side of things--reciprocity laws, pre-emption arguments, etc. These shouldn't be one way streets.
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