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Old 03-15-2018, 11:15 AM   #689
CU Tiger
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Location: Backwoods, SC
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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui View Post
I would argue that this is highly ironic coming from you.

Just as an FYI, you have formed an opinion of me so strongly that I feel you falsely equivocate me with the worst of your opposition. I'm not going to engage you on this.

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Originally Posted by RainMaker View Post
We can't even get bump stocks banned in this country. The only major move on the federal level was to undo a regulation that was put in place to keep guns out of those with severe mental illness. The country has spoken. These kind of weapons are more important than elementary school children. It's just the choice the country made.

With that said, what's the next step? Since guns are off-limits in any capacity, we have to find a solution for how schools can stop being such soft targets. Turning them into mini fortresses seems like the only solution. Albeit an incredibly expensive and embarrassing one.

Couple key points:
- I am all for banning bump stocks. They serve no reasonable purpose.
- The proposed law got so diluted as to make it illegal to purchase replacement standard stocks for shotguns where the wood stock cracked. Both sides need to quit playing politics. A law banning bump stocks should be 1 page not 50.
- I've never said guns are off limits in any capacity. Frankly I think there are reasonable conversations about magazine capacity to be had as well as SOME other restrictions
- I've been trying to come up with a good answer to this question. While I know it wont please everyone this is my proposed (admitedly incomplete) solution:
1) Standardize and simplify gun laws. Im not saying lessen restrictions I am saying make the laws easy to understand to facilitate my #2. (One area I am talking about here - there is no single legal way to carry a gun inside a vehicle in NC and SC. The two border states (which I cross state lines 10+x a day doing my job) have differing laws. There isnt even a buffer zone, so it is technically impossible for me not to violate the law every time I cross the state line. If I stop as soon as I cross the state line I have technically broke the law those 5' or whatever.
2) Once the laws are clear and concise - If you commit a crime using a weapon (armed robbery, assault, etc) you lose your right to gun possession forever. The weapon used in commission of the crime is destroyed. No second strike. If you are found to violate this law and found in possession after losing the right to possession 1st offense 5 years in jail no possibility of parole. Second offense - life. Done.
3) The second piece to #2 is improper possession. I dont claim to have that answer, but we need it figured out. Too often now it is too quick to "Not my car", "not my gun" "didnt know that was there"...somehow that needs to be closed. With a possible caveat for a single exception for legitimate mistakes. (like example in #1 currently) or my son jumps in my truck to go to the garbage dump and goes through a license check and a dog smells a firearm...etc.

Punish the offenders. Make it punitive and preventative.
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