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Originally Posted by BishopMVP
but the Betsy Ross isn't that and I think we should push back (just like white power groups don't get to claim white Polo's & khaki shorts or Macklemore haircuts... Though I'd give them the Macklemore haircuts).
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Sorry to tell you this but for a lot of people of color, white Polos and khakis (esp with New Balances) and Macklemore haircuts are going to make people think you are a white supremacist. Like there is a reason white power groups latched onto the Betsy Ross flag - no one else was using it and it adhered to their ideas about a white purity state. It's hard to jump back in now and say, hey, I know we weren't using it (for like decades), but it isn't yours. The attachment has already taken some root.
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If it's the latter it's back to the Founding Fathers esque bullshit where people want to hold historical figures to the same standard we'd hold people today. I'm fine using something like this as a teaching moment to educate people on how far we've come, but only to the lunatic left fringe that got Trump elected is a Colonial flag a "pro-slavery" flag.
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Or rather it's the un-deification of the Founding Fathers. I have long thought that the US eschews monarchy, because we've put the Founding Fathers in God-like roles already. In some respects they are our own Greek Gods with their mythical stories. Popping that bubble is long overdue, IMO. It's more unveiling the Founders and realizing that their values may not be exactly our values 200 years+ later and that's ok. People get angry and say the Founders had good as well as the bad, but they also get upset when you try to point out the bad and indicate that maybe that is a reason not to put them on the uncritical podiums they've been on for so long.