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Old 09-21-2018, 11:16 AM   #220
BishopMVP
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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight View Post
(1) Jury is still out, but I agree with you that he passed the eye test in his first game.

(2) I think that things like attitude are overrated. But Cleveland needed more than just a guy who could throw the ball. They need a leader who can shake them out of the 0-16 malaise.

In one game, he made Cleveland fun.
Based off Hard Knocks I think Jarvis Landry deserves some credit too.
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Originally Posted by Logan View Post
The "Jets" part of that is that they were up 14-0 with all the momentum and a fan base booing the hell out of its QB, and they got crazy conservative both in going too much to the run and not really letting Darnold try and do much downfield. Plus some dumb penalties, especially by Johnson which only extended the drive temporarily but allowed the Browns to completely flip field position compared to where they should have punted from originally.

But the defense itself is pretty damn talented.
I still like Darnold overall and there's little excuse for the Jets to stay conservative once Cleveland was coming back, but I'm not sure he'll ever get above the Matthew Stafford/Jay Cutler level because I don't think you can coach his dumb turnovers out of him. That first pick last night was egregious - 1st & 10, sees an open guy in the middle of the field, gets an interior lineman pushed back into him & brings the ball down, then tries to throw it blindly to the same spot as those linemen are blocking his view? That's just an instinct thing & something he's always done at USC too.
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