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thesloppy · 03-09-2018, 12:58 AM

The zero allowance for the fact that there's been no relevant act of revolution or government suppression in the last 100 years of US history, and/or anything like the kind of calamity y'all are predicting ever having affected the rest of the developed world with much stricter gun control, is what makes it hard for the rest of us to take all the impassioned 2nd amendment rhetoric seriously.

It's hard for me to see the "protect myself from the government" as anything but a euphemism for "protect my stuff from anybody else." The constitutional/historical wrapping give folks a much more noble position to argue from, but at the root of things all I'm hearing is the desire to protect person & possessions from ANYbody else.

....and to me that actually seems like a better argument, or at least a more honest one than the whole hypothetical protection from the government angle, which sounds hollow to me 99% of the time I hear it.

03-09-2018, 12:58 AM	#529
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	The zero allowance for the fact that there's been no relevant act of revolution or government suppression in the last 100 years of US history, and/or anything like the kind of calamity y'all are predicting ever having affected the rest of the developed world with much stricter gun control, is what makes it hard for the rest of us to take all the impassioned 2nd amendment rhetoric seriously. It's hard for me to see the "protect myself from the government" as anything but a euphemism for "protect my stuff from anybody else." The constitutional/historical wrapping give folks a much more noble position to argue from, but at the root of things all I'm hearing is the desire to protect person & possessions from ANYbody else. ....and to me that actually seems like a better argument, or at least a more honest one than the whole hypothetical protection from the government angle, which sounds hollow to me 99% of the time I hear it. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM. Last edited by thesloppy : 03-09-2018 at 01:08 AM.