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Old 03-09-2018, 06:47 AM   #532
Edward64
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Originally Posted by Atocep View Post
95% of the gun people I've met will reference the "ready to take up arms against the "government", but the heart of the issue for nearly every single one of them is they like to shoot guns. It's a hobby. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but a large part of the reason gun debate gets nowhere is the discussions aren't entirely honest. It's attacking a false flag position which means no matter what points are made you aren't going to get anywhere.

TBF, in my experience, most people (outside of card carrying NRA) will reference the 2A and say they have a right to own weapons but don't think most of them think "ready to take up arms against government". If it includes hunting, I would agree that for most its a hobby (and protection) is the reason.

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If you claim you need guns for home defense then you really don't need more than one. If you claim you keep guns in case you need to rise up against the government then you're delusional. If you like to shoot guns, I get that. It's your thing. It's your hobby. But don't give me the other bullshit as the reason you absolutely must have a stockpile of weapons in your home.

Respectfully, your statement about not needing more than 1 weapon for home defense protection is not valid. Perfectly okay to have a handgun and a shotgun for protection, why not 2 handguns for husband and wife each etc. I don't know where the line is crossed but would agree if someone was single, had 10 weapons and said it was primarily for home defense protection, that would be strange. There are valid reasons for multiple weapons for home defense protection.

For me, tarcone referenced breakdown of society. My worse case is not government takeover, its another Katrina where you had 5+ days of absolute chaos where there is no effective law enforcement.
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