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Old 07-05-2019, 11:36 PM   #256
BishopMVP
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Concord, MA/UMass
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Originally Posted by Arles View Post
So, part of the answer to our high health care costs are nurses and doctors need big pay cuts? I just don’t understand how a single payer system cuts costs enough to justify the bigger expense? Here are some of the reasons for our high heath care costs:
1. High Salaries for nurses and doctors.
2. Expectation of quick surgeries/low wait times.
3. We want the ability to pick our doctors and specialists.
4. We have a very large number of people to cover.
5. We have an unhealthy lifestyle with fast food and little exercise.
6. The US foots the bill for much of the drug R&D costs.

I don’t see a single payer system addressing any of these reasons.
I don't think nurses or most regular doctors are overpaid. Some specialists are paid highly, but I assume they are good and/or pay super high insurance premiums.

You're also missing the #1 reason I hate our current health care system - wayyyy too many people in beauracratic positions who add costs, time and paperwork but no value. Can a "single payer" government run system actually streamline that beauracratic nightmare? Doubtful, but at least it'd be easier to pinpoint where the wasteful excess is.
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Originally Posted by cuervo72 View Post
The Ross flag is a stupid "controversy" though. Nike consulted with one of their spokespeople, who didn't think it was a great idea, and they pulled the plug. And THEN it was an issue. For people like your parents. How many of those complaining about this were in the market for Betsy Ross Nikes, exactly? Or had any merchandise at all with the Betsy Ross flag on it? The only reason it's a "controversy" is because they chose to bitch about it.

I'm starting to think some white people just don't like the fact that a black man's opinion may hold more sway than theirs.
I wouldn't buy the shoes & it wouldn't have crossed my radar if ESPN or Twitter didn't push it to me, but yes it bothers me on multiple accounts. Idk if Nike pulled it because they felt white power groups had co-opted it or because they worried minorities would associate a colonial American flag with slavery, but either way it's dumb. If it's the former I agree sometimes symbols get co-opted & lost (sorry Hindi people, you're not getting the swastika back), but the Betsy Ross isn't that and I think we should push back (just like white power groups don't get to claim white Polo's & khaki shorts or Macklemore haircuts... Though I'd give them the Macklemore haircuts). If it's the latter it's back to the Founding Fathers esque bullshit where people want to hold historical figures to the same standard we'd hold people today. I'm fine using something like this as a teaching moment to educate people on how far we've come, but only to the lunatic left fringe that got Trump elected is a Colonial flag a "pro-slavery" flag.

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