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Old 10-04-2018, 11:42 PM   #33
Edward64
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Even with his privilege and backing, I contend 99+% of us could not have the vision he had and accomplished what he has regardless of government handouts, lies, bullshitting etc. To me that is genius.

Jobs was an ass, bad father, and treated his employees poorly (and probably many other bad things). He was a visionary and changed the world. Musk isn't quite there yet but he is that 2nd or 3rd tier below Jobs (whereas you and I are likely down at the 9-10th tier).
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