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Abe Sargent · 11-26-2017, 11:44 AM

I have to get my key three provinces, the two I need and the one to get me there.

If I do a max land grab of value, here’s what I could do:

I could do 8 provinces. There are a few valuable provinces to the far east – Nizhy Novgorod is Copper Mines, I could dig to it, and then build up around what I have and spread out so my mass is not such a tail. Here let me show you what it would look like in my war negotiations. Now that would cost an epic amount of badboy, like 56 badboy. A ton of bad boy. And some wouldn’t like it. But that would end Muscovy, give me a value NN plus eight territories and everything I need to become Russia.

This is what I would do if I was a conqueror. But I am a merchant republic. That’s a huge addition of territory beyond what we could do. But I would leave that behind soon when I take on Russia, we’d get their government type, Tsardom, as well.

So...what now brown cow?

Now, if I were to do Merchant Republic stuff –

Take the key three, and the salt province next to them
War Reps
Release Beloozero and Ryazan
Etc

Now if I skip Kolomna and instead unite with the wealthier Yuriev, and don’t get the holdings that flesh out my stuff I can get both Copper Mines, and even toss in mission. Here, pipcs

I do NINE Provinces instead!

I took:

Belooozero:

Beloozero
Ustyuzhna

Yuriev
Ryazan
Vladimir
Tula
Pronsk
Murom
Nuzhny Novgorod

I grabbed some more valuable ones instead of ones that look pretty on a map. I intend to release Beloozero soon.

This completes my mission

I spend around 340 ADM to order cores on them all

I mothball my forts

My next mission is to make nice with Denmark

All of my holdings are Orthodox and have a 75% autonomy

Beloozero – Novgorod culture. Forest, 5 dev. 9.8% unrest, Naval Supplies

Ustyuzhna – Novgorod Culture. Forest, 7 dev. 9.8% unrest, Naval Supplies

Tula – Iron mines, steppes, 9.8% unrest, 8 dev, Ryzanian Culture. South and west of the above holdings.

Pronsk – Same as above but with 7 dev.

Ryazan – Same as above, but with wool, level 2 fort, and 13 dev

Murom – Woods, grain farmers, connects NN below and Vladimir. On border with Kazan. Muscovite Culture, 12 development

Nizhny Novgorod – East of Murom above, next to Kazan, Copper mines, 15 dev, woods, Muscovite culture. Level 2 fort here

Yuriev – Salt is harnessed here, next to Moskva, Vladimir, and such. Muscovite culture, 8 dev, woods, church built here

Vladimir – 12 dev, woods, iron mines, Muscovite, next to Kazan, Ryazan, Murom, Yuriev, etc.

11-26-2017, 11:44 AM	#59
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I have to get my key three provinces, the two I need and the one to get me there. If I do a max land grab of value, here’s what I could do: I could do 8 provinces. There are a few valuable provinces to the far east – Nizhy Novgorod is Copper Mines, I could dig to it, and then build up around what I have and spread out so my mass is not such a tail. Here let me show you what it would look like in my war negotiations. Now that would cost an epic amount of badboy, like 56 badboy. A ton of bad boy. And some wouldn’t like it. But that would end Muscovy, give me a value NN plus eight territories and everything I need to become Russia. This is what I would do if I was a conqueror. But I am a merchant republic. That’s a huge addition of territory beyond what we could do. But I would leave that behind soon when I take on Russia, we’d get their government type, Tsardom, as well. So...what now brown cow? Now, if I were to do Merchant Republic stuff – Take the key three, and the salt province next to them War Reps Release Beloozero and Ryazan Etc Now if I skip Kolomna and instead unite with the wealthier Yuriev, and don’t get the holdings that flesh out my stuff I can get both Copper Mines, and even toss in mission. Here, pipcs I do NINE Provinces instead! I took: Belooozero: Beloozero Ustyuzhna Yuriev Ryazan Vladimir Tula Pronsk Murom Nuzhny Novgorod I grabbed some more valuable ones instead of ones that look pretty on a map. I intend to release Beloozero soon. This completes my mission I spend around 340 ADM to order cores on them all I mothball my forts My next mission is to make nice with Denmark All of my holdings are Orthodox and have a 75% autonomy Beloozero – Novgorod culture. Forest, 5 dev. 9.8% unrest, Naval Supplies Ustyuzhna – Novgorod Culture. Forest, 7 dev. 9.8% unrest, Naval Supplies Tula – Iron mines, steppes, 9.8% unrest, 8 dev, Ryzanian Culture. South and west of the above holdings. Pronsk – Same as above but with 7 dev. Ryazan – Same as above, but with wool, level 2 fort, and 13 dev Murom – Woods, grain farmers, connects NN below and Vladimir. On border with Kazan. Muscovite Culture, 12 development Nizhny Novgorod – East of Murom above, next to Kazan, Copper mines, 15 dev, woods, Muscovite culture. Level 2 fort here Yuriev – Salt is harnessed here, next to Moskva, Vladimir, and such. Muscovite culture, 8 dev, woods, church built here Vladimir – 12 dev, woods, iron mines, Muscovite, next to Kazan, Ryazan, Murom, Yuriev, etc. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent Last edited by Abe Sargent : 11-26-2017 at 11:45 AM.