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Old 11-11-2020, 09:41 AM   #243
JediKooter
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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic View Post
I don't view those as "far left" proposals in the abstract way you've presented them, and I don't think most people do either. I suppose everyone has a different definition.

For me, some specific "far left" proposals are sanctuary cities, abolishing Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE), decriminalizing illegal border crossings, giving taxpayer funded health benefits to illegal aliens, Medicare for All, Green New Deal extremism (e.g. banning all fracking, relying on 100% renewables), and excessive tax rates on corporations and the upper class.

Then I guess I'm far left then by your definitions. There's some nuance, but, for the most part (I probably don't agree exactly 100% with how they should be implemented), I'm for all of those things.


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Originally Posted by RainMaker
The Overton Window is pushed so far to the right in this country that national health care is considered extreme. Every first world country has it and almost all have much better results at a fraction of the cost.

Your average Democrat in this country would be far right just about anywhere else.

Exactly! The conservatives and the GOP have been pretty successful at demonizing these things, like national health care with the scary SolcIaListS are coming for you tactic. It's the new Red Scare. We currently live in a 3rd world country with a 1st world façade on the outside of our house and it's disturbing how many people are ok with that because they are afraid others might get 'free stuff'.
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